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Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

Tubzoonraug: Registration date : 2009-12-15

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Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 3rd 2015, 9:21 pm

http://abc30.com/news/shocking-details-of-child-bride-escalating-fights-leading-to-fresno-murder-suicide/606218/

Nej mloog cov lus Chanel 30 News nov hai tias, tus poj niam nov muaj 13 xyoo xwb e lawv muab muag rau Neeb Muas, cov lus nov lawv muab yuam kev thiab tsi zoo rau luag cov neeg tsi paub txog peb Hmoob txoj cai sib yuav. Peb Hmoob cov lus yog ib cov lus hai tsi yog lawm sib yuav no ma yog yuam kev, peb tsi sib yuav, niam txiv tsi tau muag ntxhai rau tej tub, kev ua txij nkawm, thiab ua tshooob kos xwb tsi yog muag tub ntxhai.

Xav kom cov neeg mej koob yuav tau hai cov lus kom meej2 yog hai lus tsi meej ce tseem yuav raug txim mus kaws nkuaj kom txog hnub tuag thiab.

Vamntxawg: Moderators; Registration date : 2008-09-12

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vamntxawg April 3rd 2015, 10:11 pm

Tubzoonraug, koj mas hais li ntawd, tabsi peb cov ua2 mejkoob no mas peb pom hais tias tej niam tej txiv coj tsis ncaj rau tus ntxhais lawm tiag nawb. Yog peb twb tsa tus tub yim peb yuav tsum tsa tus ntxhais yim thiab mas thiaj ncaj ncees. Thaum hais saum rooj cauj lug uas 4 tog mejkoob sib cev lus los yeej hais tias niam txiv tus da quav da zis, nqi mi nqi hno, nqe lus no ces txhais tau hais tias muag lawm tiag, Tus tsiaj yus tu thiaj xam nqi noj, nqi zog laiv. Cia kom tsoomfwv muab cov hmoob California kaw ntau tus me ntsis es cov hmoob California thiaj tig los yuav 18 tus txhooj uas yog peb yawg hlob VP lawv tsim tsa rau peb, cov hmoob californiam yeej muag ntxhais tiag tiag nawb, rau qhov tus xav sau 7-8 phav los muaj

Thov Khawv: Registration date : 2014-05-20

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Thov Khawv April 4th 2015, 1:26 am

Lo lus "muag" puas yuav siv tau rau tib neeg nes? Cov tawv dawb yeej paub zoo tias hauv human rights, txawv tsis pub muag tib neeg vim tib neeg tsis yog ib qhov objective. Xav lawm tias tej zaum tsuas yog Hmoob thiaj tsis to taub xwb, tab sis Mekas yuav to taub zoo. Yeej yog nkawv sib yuav.

Tubzoonraug: Registration date : 2009-12-15

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 4th 2015, 2:47 am

Tij Vamntxawg thiab Kwv Tas lauv

Cov ntxhai nim nov ma zoo li tej qaib bua lawm xwb ma, lawv muab lo lus (yuav txiv) txhai hai tias, niam txiv muab lawv sale rau tus boy lawm no ma. E lawv thiaj li hai tias, lawv yog human thiab do not sold them. cov ntxhai hai li ntawd es kuv thiaj li muab ab thib bai hai tias, lo lus sib yuav nov tsi meej pem, yuav kom meej pem ces yog 2 leeg sib qaws mus ua neej no thiaj li yog lus. Tej lus nov ma ntau dhau lawm tus yuav nkag siab li ca lo muaj os. Cia kom sib tua li nov thiab es sawv daws thiaj li hloov tsi tag li lo cov ntxhai ua ntsua khau heev e pheej dhab ceg rau cov neeg ua ua ce thiaj li ib sij tuag ib tug li nov ntag.

Dej Cawm Siav: Registration date : 2014-08-29

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Dej Cawm Siav April 4th 2015, 4:54 am

Pab tu siab ntau 6 tej xwm txheej zoo li no.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 4th 2015, 4:48 pm

Yog lo ma, lawv tseem tsi tau coj lo ua Hmoob kev cai. Ntshe yuav yog lub week tom ntej nov lau.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vamntxawg April 4th 2015, 5:42 pm

Tubzoonraug, nej cov hmoob California yuav tau hloov los coj tus txhooj uas 18 sau tseg es kom dhau los ua ib txoj cai ces peb thiaj hu tsis tau hais tias yog muag lawm. Peb cov txiv neej mas tseem khees zog, cov ntxhais peb cov txiv neej tsis suav nuj suav nqi rau tus ntxhais nawb, cov poj niam uas twb raug nws niam nws txiv muab nws muag, nws los khwv iab khwv daw rov them nws niam nws txiv. Tabsi thaum nws los yug tau ntxhais nws rov muag ntxhais dua, nws tsis nco qab txog qhov nws niam nws txiv muab nws muag es nws los khwv ciaj khwv tuag them nws tej nuj nqis. Thaum tsis tau muaj lub txhooj mas kuv mus ua mejkoob, leej niam yeej tsis yuav tus txiv hais li ntag nawb, tus txiv kom txo me ntsis no mas, tus niam teb ntua hais tias nws yog tus yug mob nws plab, kom tus txiv txhob hais2, yog tej kwv tij hais ntau ces nws cais kiag ntag hov. Poj niam yog tus rov tsis hlub poj niam xwb nawb

Jesqav: Registration date : 2014-08-06

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Jesqav April 4th 2015, 7:59 pm

Nyob zoo cov Brothers txhua tus.

Hmoob ce tej txhia ce txawm cov txhai tsi yeem, tsi nyiam, tsi kam, lo tej laus yeej yuam li mas, noob nyoog under 18 lo yeej yuam lis...............ab yas....hmoob tej nam hmoob ned...twb niaj nub nthuab hmoob lub qai ned..... Yog yuav muab ua kom nruj cuag hlua nyuj nruj nree cuag dlua neev....raw nraim li kev cai li choj tau teev tseg ce coob leej tau nkag nkuaj lis os.

Qhov zoo ce peb xyaum hloov txij peb phaum nov mus xwb.....

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Thov Khawv April 5th 2015, 12:18 am

Yog li nej hais os cov brothers

Tubzoonraug: Registration date : 2009-12-15

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 5th 2015, 12:30 am

Cov kwv, tim USA ma txawv heev vim lawv muaj txoj cai hai tias, yog 2 tug nkauj nraug tsi tau muaj 18 xyoo, niam txiv tso cai ces nkawv yeej sib qaws ua neej taus. Tab si, ib tug hnub nyug 18, ib tug 17 xwb ces rau kaws for life lawm nawb. Luag hai tias sex abused no na.

Yog li ma thaum tus poj niam 17 xyoo es nws twb txau siab kam rau tus txiv 18 xyoo lawm lo thaum nws chim siab ces nws tom tuag nthi kom tus txiv neeg rau txim txog hnub kawg, yog li nov ma leej twg muaj peev xwm xum tuag ces ua xwb ma. Kom cov poj niam ua ntsua muaj plus heev.

Ntawm tus Hmoob Muas case nov ma lawv yeej hai tias, khub niam txiv nov yeej sib nrauj lo lawm ntev xyoo, tab si tus niam ma ua pua tsav yam rau tus txiv kom nws ua tsi tau dab tsi li ntag, muaj property lo ua kom poob tag, ua kom tus txiv tau them child support tag li xwb ces tus txiv twb twb muaj nws poj niam lawm lo tus poj niam loj yeej ua tag zog kom tus txiv qub tuag mus ces thaum kawg tus txiv qub thiaj li tuas ob leeg tuag tag no o.

Jesqav: Registration date : 2014-08-06

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Jesqav April 5th 2015, 3:00 am

Tubzoonraug wrote:Cov kwv, tim USA ma txawv heev vim lawv muaj txoj cai hai tias, yog 2 tug nkauj nraug tsi tau muaj 18 xyoo, niam txiv tso cai ces nkawv yeej sib qaws ua neej taus. Tab si, ib tug hnub nyug 18, ib tug 17 xwb ces rau kaws for life lawm nawb. Luag hai tias sex abused no na.

Yog li ma thaum tus poj niam 17 xyoo es nws twb txau siab kam rau tus txiv 18 xyoo lawm lo thaum nws chim siab ces nws tom tuag nthi kom tus txiv neeg rau txim txog hnub kawg, yog li nov ma leej twg muaj peev xwm xum tuag ces ua xwb ma. Kom cov poj niam ua ntsua muaj plus heev.

Ntawm tus Hmoob Muas case nov ma lawv yeej hai tias, khub niam txiv nov yeej sib nrauj lo lawm ntev xyoo, tab si tus niam ma ua pua tsav yam rau tus txiv kom nws ua tsi tau dab tsi li ntag, muaj property lo ua kom poob tag, ua kom tus txiv tau them child support tag li xwb ces tus txiv twb twb muaj nws poj niam lawm lo tus poj niam loj yeej ua tag zog kom tus txiv qub tuag mus ces thaum kawg tus txiv qub thiaj li tuas ob leeg tuag tag no o.

Haha brother Tubzoonraug aw.....ca yuav zoo li no li laud.....cov teb chaw txom nyem yog tseem muaj news report zoo li tim nej thiab ntshe yuav muaj2 news kawg li thiab nawb...

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Thov Khawv April 5th 2015, 8:15 am

She deserved it, bro Tubzoonraug.

Tubzoonraug: Registration date : 2009-12-15

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 5th 2015, 9:14 am

Yog lawm ma brother, ib tug poj niam e deev hlua nraug, twb nrauj tau yuav muaj 10 xyoo lawm nyia twb mus muaj nyia neej lawm lo tus poj niam nov tseem kom nws tus Lawyer sue tus ex husband tag zog txeeb txhua yam kom tus ex txiv ua tsi tau dab tsi li tsi tag li foob tag zog kom luag cov government cut nyiaj rau Child support tag zog rau tus pog nov noj thiab nws tus txiv tshiab noj ces tus ex yeej ua tsi tau dab tsi li. Thaum kawg thiaj li tau txia txim tua kom tuag, qhov tsi zoo yog nws tsi nrhiav kom tau tus Lawyer, thiab muab nws tus txiv txhiab lawv xyua kom tag mam li xyua nws tom qab ma thiaj li pauj tau, nws cia li ua nws thiab tus niag ex wife xwb ces cov neeg phem ho dim lawm xwb os.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by yujyeeg April 5th 2015, 11:41 am

Yog laud...nyob rau ib lub teb chaws uas nom tswv tsa pojniam cai, Ces peb cov txiv neej yeej tau txais kev txom nyem. Lub hauv paus twb yog tus niam tus xub xub pib coj nws lub pob khaus mus rau luag txhuam ua ntej mam rov los tsim teeb meem rau tus txiv hauv tsev tag, Tseem coj me tub me nyuam khiav los haj tseem ua plaub rau tus txiv kom tus txiv yug cov me nyuam thiab yug nws, Yog me nyuam 1.2 tus xwb kuj yuav tsi npaum twg yog muaj txog 3.4 tug rau saum lawm ces txawm raug rau tus txiv neej twg los yeej tsi pom qab yuav ua neeg nyob lawm, Tseem txom nyem tshaj tus uas luag kaw rau nram nkuaj lawm thiab es yuav ua li cas.

Txiv neej yawg ces kawg nkaus qhov yuav tau muab xa mus cuag poj cuag yawm kom tag mam rov los yug dua tshiab lawm xwb laud.

Tubzoonraug: Registration date : 2009-12-15

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 5th 2015, 12:49 pm

Brother, Yuj Yeeg, tsi pom qab yuav hai li ca lawm tiag, cov pojniam no lawv lub qhov khau dhau lawm peb cov txiv neej Hmoob yeej tshiav tsi txog lawv qhov khau ntawd li. Yuav luag yog txua tus poj niam yeej muab lawv lub pob khau mus rau lwm tus txiv neej tshiav. Thaum coj mus tshiav heev2 lawm ces lub neej thiaj li puas thaum pua lawm lo tseem yuav tsim teeb meem tag zog, muaj tej cov menyuam twb tsi yog tus txiv li los tseem muab liam yog tus txiv li tib si ces tseem raug yug tej niag menyuam tsaub ntawd nrog rau nws cov thiab. Yog li ma tsua muaj ib txoj kev ncaj ncee xwb. Txoj ntawd ces kawg ua nws taub hau txaws lug lawm xwb tiag.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 5th 2015, 7:37 pm

Kuv hnov Hmoob tham tias niag poj niam no twb muaj dua 1 tug txiv twb muaj 2 tug me nyuam lawm mam li los yuav neeb muas no nev.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 5th 2015, 8:37 pm

Toj Xeem, qhov ntawm koj tham nov ma kuv lo kuj tsi paub zoo kuv tsua hnov neeg tham thiab xwb, yeej paub tsi tseeb, qhov kuv hnov ma yog Neeb tus tij laug nyob rau Sacramento yog tus piav txog Neeb Lub neej ma yeej tim tus poj niam thiab nws tus Lawyer pheej yuav ua kom Neeb tsi muaj dab si kiag, yog Neeb ua zaj nov ces qhia tau hai tias nws ua yog lawm, tiam si, nws muab maj zog lawm, qhov yuav kom zoo ma tus Lawyer, yuav tsum qhia rau thiab tus pojniam ntawd tus txiv thiab ua kom 4 leeg ma thiaj li tsim nyog.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Nraug Cuam April 6th 2015, 3:53 am

3 cov ntxhais hmoob mas cauj dhau laj tos txog 18 xyoo dhau twb maj mus sib xyuas lawm, tseem tos txog 18 thiab ces twb xoob tag lawm tsis xav yuav lawm os lawv lol lol lol.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Thov Khawv April 6th 2015, 7:11 am

Bro Tubzoonraug, kuv nyob rooj teb no kuj tsis tau pom dua tus poj niam yuav phem npaum ko thiab, hnov koj piav li ko mas kuv kub kawg li thiab laiv. Twb yog Neeb xwb yog kuv mas kab tias muab nws luas ib daig zuj zus twb tsis zoo siab li nawb. Tus poj niam Hmoob no zoo ntsej muag tab sis lim hiam kawg yom.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 6th 2015, 8:38 am

Tubzoonraug wrote:Toj Xeem, qhov ntawm koj tham nov ma kuv lo kuj tsi paub zoo kuv tsua hnov neeg tham thiab xwb, yeej paub tsi tseeb, qhov kuv hnov ma yog Neeb tus tij laug nyob rau Sacramento yog tus piav txog Neeb Lub neej ma yeej tim tus poj niam thiab nws tus Lawyer pheej yuav ua kom Neeb tsi muaj dab si kiag, yog Neeb ua zaj nov ces qhia tau hai tias nws ua yog lawm, tiam si, nws muab maj zog lawm, qhov yuav kom zoo ma tus Lawyer, yuav tsum qhia rau thiab tus pojniam ntawd tus txiv thiab ua kom 4 leeg ma thiaj li tsim nyog.

Niag tsov tom ntawd twb muaj 1 tug txiv tshiab lawm thiab cas tsis ua 1 siab mus nrog tus txiv tshiab nyob xwb txhob kov neeb ces tsis muaj teeb meem lawm mas.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vamntxawg April 6th 2015, 1:15 pm

Yog li neb hais no mas neeb ua yog lawm ntag nawb, ib qhov mas yeej yog tim tus txiv tshiab xav kom tau nyiaj ces nws kom nws poj niam ua xwb. nej nua hais tias yog tus txiv tshiab muab tswvyim kom tus poj niam ua es kom tau nyiaj coj los yug tus txiv tshiab xwb nav, yog tsis tim tus txiv tshiab ces tus poj niam yeej tso tseg lawm, yus poj niam yus hais tias tsum ces yeej tsum, yog tsis tsum ces txhais hais tias nws tseem nco tus txiv qub no ces poj niam yeej tso tseg lawm, lub tswvyim no yog tus txiv tshiab ua kom tus txiv qub tau yug tus poj niam ces cov nyiaj uas coj los yug tus poj niam ntawd yog tus txiv tshiab siv no ntag.

Kuv tsis paub kuv pheej xav hais tias yog tim tus txiv pheej ua hluas es thiaj muaj cov teeb meem no ne.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 6th 2015, 1:56 pm

Vamntxawg.
Niag pog no twb muaj 1 tug txiv twb muaj 2 tug me nyuam lawm mam nrauj nws tus txiv mam los yuav neeb.Twb ho los muaj neeb 5 tug me nyuam lawm thiab mam li nrauj neeb ces mus yuav tus txiv tshiab lawm tseem niaj hnub rov tuaj ua plaub rau neeb ces neeb thiab tseem liam tias neeb txhom nws yuav puag thaum nws nyuam qhuav muaj 13 xyoos xwb no ne.Tiag mas neeb yuav niag poj nrauj twb muaj 2 tug me nyuam lawm neeb thiaj li muab nws cav kas li no los mas.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 6th 2015, 4:57 pm

Toj Xeem, yog muaj li koj tham tiag ma txawm nws mus hai txog qhov twg lo nws yeej tsi yeej neeb ma, txawm nws yuav dag rau CPS,( Child protective Service) lo neeb yeej yuav tsum hai tias, nws dag nej xwb vim nws twb xub mus yuav txiv muaj 2 tug menyuam lawm es nws rauj nws tus ex lawm mam li lo yuav kuv no? Ua li neeb ua yog lawm ma.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Nraug Cuam April 7th 2015, 1:54 am

Tubzoonraug wrote:Toj Xeem, qhov ntawm koj tham nov ma kuv lo kuj tsi paub zoo kuv tsua hnov neeg tham thiab xwb, yeej paub tsi tseeb, qhov kuv hnov ma yog Neeb tus tij laug nyob rau Sacramento yog tus piav txog Neeb Lub neej ma yeej tim tus poj niam thiab nws tus Lawyer pheej yuav ua kom Neeb tsi muaj dab si kiag, yog Neeb ua zaj nov ces qhia tau hai tias nws ua yog lawm, tiam si, nws muab maj zog lawm, qhov yuav kom zoo ma tus Lawyer, yuav tsum qhia rau thiab tus pojniam ntawd tus txiv thiab ua kom 4 leeg ma thiaj li tsim nyog.

Yog kawg bro, ua li koj hais no mas thiaj qoos xwm.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Nraug Cuam April 7th 2015, 1:57 am

Vamntxawg wrote:Yog li neb hais no mas neeb ua yog lawm ntag nawb, ib qhov mas yeej yog tim tus txiv tshiab xav kom tau nyiaj ces nws kom nws poj niam ua xwb. nej nua hais tias yog tus txiv tshiab muab tswvyim kom tus poj niam ua es kom tau nyiaj coj los yug tus txiv tshiab xwb nav, yog tsis tim tus txiv tshiab ces tus poj niam yeej tso tseg lawm, yus poj niam yus hais tias tsum ces yeej tsum, yog tsis tsum ces txhais hais tias nws tseem nco tus txiv qub no ces poj niam yeej tso tseg lawm, lub tswvyim no yog tus txiv tshiab ua kom tus txiv qub tau yug tus poj niam ces cov nyiaj uas coj los yug tus poj niam ntawd yog tus txiv tshiab siv no ntag.

Kuv tsis paub kuv pheej xav hais tias yog tim tus txiv pheej ua hluas es thiaj muaj cov teeb meem no ne.

Tij Vamntxawg cas Neeb tsis luj zus tus txiv tshiab tib si nrog ua ke 1 xyuam thiab ne oib oib oib tam tseeb lauj yom hehehehe

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Nraug Cuam April 7th 2015, 2:02 am

Tojxeem wrote:Vamntxawg.
Niag pog no twb muaj 1 tug txiv twb muaj 2 tug me nyuam lawm mam nrauj nws tus txiv mam los yuav neeb.Twb ho los muaj neeb 5 tug me nyuam lawm thiab mam li nrauj neeb ces mus yuav tus txiv tshiab lawm tseem niaj hnub rov tuaj ua plaub rau neeb ces neeb thiab tseem liam tias neeb txhom nws yuav puag thaum nws nyuam qhuav muaj 13 xyoos xwb no ne.Tiag mas neeb yuav niag poj nrauj twb muaj 2 tug me nyuam lawm neeb thiaj li muab nws cav kas li no los mas.

Oh bro Tojxeem, Neeb yuav nws es nws twb yog poj nrauj 1 tom 2 tug me nyuam lawm es Neeb tseem txhawj nrog nws hais cai thiab? oib oib oib casyuav tsis tau siab kiag li lauj cas tseem yuav this nyuag poj nrauj no tuag thiab os kwv tij hmoob aw, yog nyob li 3 Laos no mas nqi lus tias txhom yuav thaum 13 xyoo no mas tsis txhawj nrog nws hais kiag pos 10 ncauj nrog nws do xwb nav. Pab chim dhau lawm os bro Tojxeem aw hehehehe

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 7th 2015, 12:07 pm

Nraug Cuam.
Hais ncaj tias yog lam nyob peb teb chaws los tsuas ces lawv ho yuav tsis muaj peev xwm ua tau plaub rau neeb lawm thiab ov.Teb chaws mab dawb no muaj cov tsev poj nrauj los txheem plaub txheem ntug es thiaj muaj tej xwm zoo li no los mas.

Kuv ho piav 1 qho muaj 2 niam txiv twb sib yuav tau 20 xyoo lawm twb muaj 8 leej me nyuam lawm thaum ho muaj lo puav lus sib ceg tsis haum siab ces poj niam liam tias nws muaj 8 tug me nyuam no los vim yog tus txiv txhom nws ua xwb no ces lawv tseem ntes tus txiv mus kaw.Tej no ces nyob nplog teb ces sib yuav tau 20 xyoo lawm luag tsis hais tias yog txhom ua li lawm nav.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by naxus April 7th 2015, 8:51 pm

Cov kwv tij, qhov zoo ces yuav tau ua kom tus neeg txheej plaub ntug ntawm tus poj niam thiab tus txiv tshiab ntaws ua ib pawg nrog tus txiv qub ma thiaj li tsim nyog, tsi paub hai tias yog vim li ca tus txiv qub ho ua nkawv ob leeg xwb. Tsi tag li lawv cov News hai tias, tus poj niam nov muaj 13 xyoo xwb neeb mus kidnap nws lo xwb no laiv. E nws twb muaj 2 tug menyuam ua ntej neeb yuav lawm nos ho yog li ca ma? tej lus nov ma zoo li tsi tshua nkag kuv pob tseg pe tsawg.

Lub week tom ntej nov ces lawv yuav coj Neeb lub ceev lo ua Hmoob kev cai nyob ze ntawm kuv li 3 miles xwb. Kuv nyob ze kuv li mus nrog lawv zov hmo mentsi.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Nraug Cuam April 8th 2015, 2:50 am

Tojxeem wrote:Nraug Cuam.
Hais ncaj tias yog lam nyob peb teb chaws los tsuas ces lawv ho yuav tsis muaj peev xwm ua tau plaub rau neeb lawm thiab ov.Teb chaws mab dawb no muaj cov tsev poj nrauj los txheem plaub txheem ntug es thiaj muaj tej xwm zoo li no los mas.

Kuv ho piav 1 qho muaj 2 niam txiv twb sib yuav tau 20 xyoo lawm twb muaj 8 leej me nyuam lawm thaum ho muaj lo puav lus sib ceg tsis haum siab ces poj niam liam tias nws muaj 8 tug me nyuam no los vim yog tus txiv txhom nws ua xwb no ces lawv tseem ntes tus txiv mus kaw.Tej no ces nyob nplog teb ces sib yuav tau 20 xyoo lawm luag tsis hais tias yog txhom ua li lawm nav.

Tij Tojxeem, yog li koj ua tij hais kawg kheev lam yog nyob teb chaws ntuj qub qab no ces yeej tsis muaj tej teeb meem zoo li no.

Oh raws li koj ua tij piav twb sib yuav tau 20 xyoo no twb muaj 8 leej me nyuam lawm es nws hais tias yog tus txiv txhom nws ua xwb no Nom Tswv tseem ntseeg thiab??? zoo li cov daj hau tim ko twb ntse kawg thiab mob cas es ho tseem yuav mus ntseeg tus poj niam ntawv lo lus iab liam thiab? nqi lus no mas yog nyob 3 teb chaws Laos no mas tab txawm tus me nyuam yau so ntswg tav toj xwb los twb yeej tsis ntseeg lawm nav oib oib oib tam tseeb lauj, yog kuv nyob tim nej ko ntshe muaj 1 zaug kuv kawg ua li Neeb zaj thiab xwb lauj lol lol lol lol lol.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Nraug Cuam April 8th 2015, 2:51 am

naxus wrote:Cov kwv tij, qhov zoo ces yuav tau ua kom tus neeg txheej plaub ntug ntawm tus poj niam thiab tus txiv tshiab ntaws ua ib pawg nrog tus txiv qub ma thiaj li tsim nyog, tsi paub hai tias yog vim li ca tus txiv qub ho ua nkawv ob leeg xwb. Tsi tag li lawv cov News hai tias, tus poj niam nov muaj 13 xyoo xwb neeb mus kidnap nws lo xwb no laiv. E nws twb muaj 2 tug menyuam ua ntej neeb yuav lawm nos ho yog li ca ma? tej lus nov ma zoo li tsi tshua nkag kuv pob tseg pe tsawg.

Lub week tom ntej nov ces lawv yuav coj Neeb lub ceev lo ua Hmoob kev cai nyob ze ntawm kuv li 3 miles xwb. Kuv nyob ze kuv li mus nrog lawv zov hmo mentsi.

Muab ua zoo mloog los lawm tsis txaus ntseeg kiag li koj ua tij hais ko tiag bro, yog koj mus nrog lawv zov hmo no ho mus nug seb yog li cas no ho tuaj piav qhia os.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 8th 2015, 5:03 am

Bro, Nraug Cuam, kuv mus no mam li nrog lawv thaim saib qhov teeb meem mus li ca tiag. Tsi paub thaum neeg coob2 tshoo2 lawm pua zoo tham lawm txawm li ca lo mam li ua tib zoo hnug tej ua ho paub tus kwv tij ntawd.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vajhuamsibluag April 10th 2015, 11:20 pm

Tubzoonraug wrote:http://abc30.com/news/shocking-details-of-child-bride-escalating-fights-leading-to-fresno-murder-suicide/606218/

Nej mloog cov lus Chanel 30 News nov hai tias, tus poj niam nov muaj 13 xyoo xwb e lawv muab muag rau Neeb Muas, cov lus nov lawv muab yuam kev thiab tsi zoo rau luag cov neeg tsi paub txog peb Hmoob txoj cai sib yuav. Peb Hmoob cov lus yog ib cov lus hai tsi yog lawm sib yuav no ma yog yuam kev, peb tsi sib yuav, niam txiv tsi tau muag ntxhai rau tej tub, kev ua txij nkawm, thiab ua tshooob kos xwb tsi yog muag tub ntxhai.

Xav kom cov neeg mej koob yuav tau hai cov lus kom meej2 yog hai lus tsi meej ce tseem yuav raug txim mus kaws nkuaj kom txog hnub tuag thiab.

Qhov kuv tsis txaus siab mas yog qhov ABC30 tsis totaub Hmoob sib yuav. Lawv lam tau lam hais Hmoob rau txoj kev tsis zoo. Kuv tau sign petition pab tus nxhais Hmoob tsis txaus siab tau ABC30 news. Nej mus nyeej nxiv cov lus tus Junior Vue sau nyob Wisconsin.

Ua neeg, yus yuavtsum pab yus, hais raws yus kev ua neeg. Tsis txhob hais "yes" raws luag lwm haiv neeg uas tsis paub "qab tog hau xov" ntawm yus haiv neeg. Cov Hmoob community uas hais tias ABC30 doesn't owe Hmong an apology mas tsimnyog "go to hell!!" Thiab, raws li kuv xav, qhov tus pojniam no raug tua kiag mas vim nws siv lub tswvyim uas Thajyeeb tus pojniam siv rau Thajyeeb ntag!!

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 13th 2015, 3:30 pm

Txiv Vajhuam,

Tej teeb meem nov yog tim tus neeg ua dag muab xov tsi yog rau ABC News lawm ma. Tej zaum yuav tsi tim ABC News tag2, vim luag tsi paub yus keeb kwm ces muaj tus neeg dag rau luag ces luag yuav hai raws li tus neeg hai ntawd xwb. Kuv Saib mentsi hauv ABC News hai ma tus poj niam ntawd muaj 13 xyoo ces niam txiv muab muag rau rau Tus Yeeb Muas ntawd. Qhov nov ces yog ib qhov ua kom Tus Yeeb Muas raug ntxim tuag. Tab si raws li rumor hai, tus poj niam nov nws twb yuav txiv muaj 2 tug menyuam ua ntej mam li lo yuav tus txiv Hmoob Muas. Tsi tag li lo tus txiv Hmoob Muas nov yeej muaj poj niam es sib nrauj lawm mam li yuav tus pog nov thiab. Muab hai lo ces Tus Hmoob muas nov nws ua yog lawm tiam si, qhov kuv xav ma nws tsi muab niag txiv tshiab thiab niag lawyer xyua tib si ua ntej mam li xyua nws ma thiaj tsim nyog.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vajhuamsibluag April 16th 2015, 10:56 pm

Tubzoonraug wrote:http://abc30.com/news/shocking-details-of-child-bride-escalating-fights-leading-to-fresno-murder-suicide/606218/

Nej mloog cov lus Chanel 30 News nov hai tias, tus poj niam nov muaj 13 xyoo xwb e lawv muab muag rau Neeb Muas, cov lus nov lawv muab yuam kev thiab tsi zoo rau luag cov neeg tsi paub txog peb Hmoob txoj cai sib yuav. Peb Hmoob cov lus yog ib cov lus hai tsi yog lawm sib yuav no ma yog yuam kev, peb tsi sib yuav, niam txiv tsi tau muag ntxhai rau tej tub, kev ua txij nkawm, thiab ua tshooob kos xwb tsi yog muag tub ntxhai.

Xav kom cov neeg mej koob yuav tau hai cov lus kom meej2 yog hai lus tsi meej ce tseem yuav raug txim mus kaws nkuaj kom txog hnub tuag thiab.

Thawm raws nyias kev xav. Qhov tus qub txiv tua tus qub pojniam mas tejzaum tus niam siv tib lub tswvyim uas Thajyeeb tus pojniam siv rau nws es nws thiaj raug txim ntev.

Regarding Hmong "Bride-Price"

Junior Vue

4-4-2015

There has been great uproar since ABC30's mis-representation of the Hmong culture. It titled the article as "SHOCKING DETAILS OF CHILD BRIDE, ESCALATING FIGHTS LEADING TO FRESNO MURDER-SUICIDE."

The article starts with the entire premise of the Vang being "sold." From the article: "Action News has uncovered shocking details of a girl sold into marriage in her childhood."

To understand the complexity of this issue and term, we must understand it from multiple points of view. Why do we use the term "Bride Price?" Where did it come from?

We have to first understand that the ideas that Asians have this concept of "I bring honor to the framiry" and that men are abusive to their submissive women...these are all stereotypes. I know a number of assertive and powerful women. And a number of people who don't care about fame and glory to the family. I know abuse and exploitation does happen, but the worst of the community shouldn't be used to represent the whole. Rather than play the blaming game to see which person, which culture, or which gender is at fault, we must analyze the root of the problem.

*Disclaimer, I do not know any details regarding the case at hand. And I despise violent relationships. I am sorry for the loss of the loved ones who were affected by this tragedy.

Where did Bride Price come from?

Well the word "Bride Price" was forced upon the Hmong community by Western anthropologists and media (such as ABC30). When the Westerners came into contact with the Hmong in about the 1800's, they did not have any knowledge of the Hmong cultural practices. When they observed the Hmong marriage customs, the closest word they could come up with to explain the silver bars being exchanged at a wedding was through using the word Bride Price. However, this is a Euro-centric term. From this silver exchange, the outside observers continue on to (falsely) think that the woman was "bought" because in their mind, they see this exchange as a monetary transaction due to their capitalistic mindset.

As pointed out by myself and Dr. Vincet K. Her, the Hmong have no term for "to buy." The closest word is "yuav" but that word is usually used with another verb. An example is: Kuv xav yuav lub tsho no. (I want to have this shirt here). Another example: Kuv yuav mus ua si. (I will go play). Last example with the term yuav alone: Kuv yuav me me xwb. (I want only a little). From these examples, we see that the verb/adverb yuav does not mean to buy. Rather, it means to will or to want. Why is this important?

The concept of owning other human beings and paying for them is a Western idea. They have bought and owned humans in their history, and the Hmong did not. The term bride price was forced upon the Hmong culture. We have to break away from the chains of colonialism.

The Hmong do have a term for "to marry." That word is Qua. Example: Kuv yuav qua kuv tus ntxhais hnub no. (I will marry my daughter today). In the Hmong Green Dialect the term qua refers to both males and females for the word husband and wife, quayawg (husband) and qua puj (wife). The Hmong make it clear in their language to have a specific word for the act of marrying.

If it's not Bride Price, then, what is it?

If one has been at a Hmong banquet or party, we would see a common practice of white privilege. If there was even one White person in the room, the Hmong emcee would speak in English just so the White person could understand. (I have never seen a non-Hmong emcee speak in Hmong at a non-Hmong event just because my mother, who doesn't speak English well, was in the room). The Hmong community has been receptive to giving in to white privilege- we go out of our way to make others try to understand us. This includes trying to change our language so they can understand it.

The first attempt was (I think) a humorous one by the older generation. They began interpreting the $5,000 exchange as "dowry" in English. The word dowry itself is the exact OPPOSITE of what a Bride Price would be. A dowry is the money that is given with the bride to the groom. This practice is common in cultures that see women as a burden, so they want to put a high dowry on their daughters as way to guarantee a suitor: If you marry our daughter you'll get $X,000. Dowry is money received by the man. But this example shows us how the Hmong misinterpreted the European culture by using concepts that were familiar to themselves. The Westerners made the same misinterpretation by calling the exchange a Bride Price. (The Hmong do have a word similar to Dowry, it is called Phij Cuam. This is the money and property the Bride's family gives her to start off her marriage).

So what is the proper Hmong term? Nqe mi Nqe Hno. Those are the original words. They translate to the value of [the Mother's] milk and [the mother's] sewing. If we continue the Zaj sung at weddings, we would understand that the $5,000 exchanged is a form of respect for the parents of the bride (specifically the mother). It is money used to pay acknowledgement of the mother's hard work in raising the daughter. Later on it says in some Zaj that the items given to the Bride's family are in exchange for the mother's knuckle sandwiches. (Muab pauv niam lub ncuav pias). This poetic language represents exchanging the items for the mother's teachings and wisdom she has passed on to her daughter through the ncuav pias.

This act of symbolic exchange is a way to guarantee that the groom will acknowledge the bride's parents and honor them. This is a core value in Hmong society: respect for parents and elders. There is much more detail into the wedding procedures and understanding, but I hope this sparks your interest into deeper research.

We must stop using the term Bride Price. Start using Nqe mi Nqe Hno.
It must become a common household term like: quesadilla (Spanish), chauffeur (French), or alpha (Greek).

We should not be ashamed or afraid to use our language. Use our words proudly. Use our words as a teaching point.

Does this mean "selling" people never happened in Hmong History?

Sadly, selling people did occur in Hmong history. This has been noted in the mid 1800's while the Hmong were living in Southeast Asia under French Colonial rule. The French Government heavily taxed the Laotians, who in turn heavily taxed the minority groups- which included the Hmong. The heavy taxes would force the Hmong to sell off their crops. Once that was taken, they would sell off their land. After the land was gone, they'd sell off their property. It would eventually boil down to the point where the Hmong families had nothing was left to sell... And so the French accepted payment in the form of Human Life. That is when Hmong people sold off their own people. They were forced to by the economic pressures. (The news doesn't tell you that dark part of history). This form of oppression ultimately, led to a Hmong rebellion led by Pa Chay Vue in 1918-1921.

It was during this era of high oppression where Hmong people were stripped of property and forced to sell off everything they had. It came to the point where they were selling off their children and selling off their culture. To survive during these times, families began to say that it cost them a lot of Mother's milk and Mother's sewing to raise their daughter. (And I am sure it did cost a lot because they lived in poverty). This led to high demands for Nqe mi Nqe Hno, up to 30 silver bars (about $30,000). We could be ignorant and stop here and say: SEE THIS IS WHERE HMONG CULTURE SELLS WOMEN. But we must understand, WHAT FORCED THE HMONG PEOPLE TO HAVE TO RESORT TO THIS... It was Colonialism- the oppression, the taxation, the new economic system...it was not Hmong culture. Hmong culture was the scapegoat (and it still is to this day). Hmong culture was the only thing they had left to use to survive. It is sickening that an economic system would do this to people. If you want to get rid of exploitation, get rid of the economic system that is causing it. The Nqe Mi Nqe Hno was intended to guarantee that the groom would respect the bride's parents. The Hmong families had no other resources, taxation and colonialism forced the Hmong to exploit their own culture to survive. We know that the Hmong have changed the items exchanged at weddings (from cows in China, to silver bars in Laos, to cash in America) based resources required for living in the economic systems used by those in the nations which the Hmong reside. Change the system, stop trying to force the culture to change. It's a really hard concept for people to wrap their heads around.

The French Colonists did set up a few Hmong officials to try and stop resistance in the late 1800's. These French appointed Hmong families had more than enough money to marry who they wanted. This set up the possibility of rich Hmong families becoming able to exploit the Hmong culture and Hmong marriage customs. It stratified the Hmong society: the extremely rich and really poor. (Again, we see the monetary system, once it entered, was the virus that led to corruption. The colonizers were able to teach the oppressed how to oppress their own kind).

According to Dr. Douglas Vue, it wasn't until Touby Lyfoung came into power that there was some control over the Nqe mi Nqe Hno issue. Touby was a high official in the Laotian government. Touby was the nephew of the Kaitong Blia Yao Lo (an appointed Hmong governor). It was Kaitong Blia Yao Lo that helped the French quell the Pa Chay Vue rebellion. Touby's mother was forced into marriage because they were the only ones rich enough to pay the inflated Nqe Mi Nqe Hno. Touby saw that this practice of cultural exploitation, where the Hmong pushed the Nqe Mi Nqe Hno to ridiculous heights, was wrong. Touby was a fairly progressive politician. He pushed for the creation of schools, representation of the minority groups in the Laotian government, and he fought to end the high costs attached to Hmong marriages. He saw the political concern attached to the Hmong marriage conflict; the Hmong population was not growing. Men would have to work years to earn enough money to have a marriage. When that happened, the women they loved may have married someone else. It lowered the moral of the Hmong people. The Hmong population also died young, around age 40. That means that if a family had parents who were married at age 30, their child would be an orphan by age 10. That may explain why the Hmong have many stories of Orphans. Touby was personally connected to this issue because his mother committed suicide. His mother was forced into a marriage with a man she did not love because he was the only one able to pay for the wedding. Touby gathered the Hmong clan leaders in Xieng Khouang and they set the new standard: the Nqe mi Nqe Hno must not exceed 5 silver bars. This set a maximum amount as to how much families could claim was their effort into raising their daughter.

In America, General Vang Pao along with the Hmong 18 Council set the new standard for Nqe Mi Nqe Hno at $5,000. This is a MAXIMUM amount, not a minimum. Families can elect to put no physical amount for the groom to pay as respect for them. This was a preventative measure to stop the exploitation of the culture and of women. (There is a difference between Hmong Culture and abusing Hmong culture. A good system could be used for evil by greedy people... such as using the Christian faith to legitimize the killing of the human beings). In the future, the need for a Nqe mi Nqe Hno may no longer be needed and that is up to our generation to decide. I would also recommend having women leaders at the next meeting this cultural matter is discussed.

In conclusion, I hope this post has given you deeper insight into the history of the term Nqe Mi Nqe Hno. I also hope that you never use the term Bride Price again when speaking of Nqe Mi Nqe Hno. The term Bride Price is a word forced upon us by the media and misled peoples to enforce racist stereotypes. It was a term that failed to describe a phenomenon in our Hmong Culture. The concepts of Hmong people selling humans is rooted in colonial rule and oppression by the Western Nations and not rooted in Hmong Culture. This concept of owning humans for money was created by the ruling elites, it has never been a part of Hmong culture or even language. The system at bay has now infiltrated some hearts and minds of the Hmong. The capitalistic/colonial ideologies have caused some to begin to hate themselves, their cultures, and their own people. We must break free from the old chains of colonialism which still haunts and hurts us today! End the stereotypes that are placed upon us by the people in power. Their tricks of teaching us to hate ourselves must end. WE MUST LOOK AT THE REAL FACTORS THAT FORCED THE HMONG TO EXPLOIT THEMSELVES if we wish to truly solve the issue at hand.

We must be proud to use our words.

This is what happens when we forget our language and are taught about ourselves by the people who want to exploit us.

[Even the news article is exploiting the Hmong people. They intentionally name the article this way so that it will generate lots of hits on their website. The more buzzfeed they obtain the more money they make from advertisement. They do not care that they are disenfranchising an entire culture and ethnicity, they just want the most profit as possible].

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 16th 2015, 11:38 pm

Kuv yuav qua kuv tus ntxhais hnub no. (I will marry my daughter today).

Los lus English txhai twb tsi raug lawm sub, raws kuv gag siab lo lus English nov ma hai tias kuv yov yuav kuv tus ntxhai hnub nov.

yog lo lus English nov ces twb yuam kev lawm. tsi tag li lo lus hmooob lo twb yuam kev lawm thiab, Kuv yuav qua kuvtus ntxhai hnub nov.los lus nov txhai tau hai tias, kuv yuav muab kuv tus ntxhai muag hnub nov.

Txiv Vajhuam, ua li ca lawv cov neeg txawj je sau lus txhai lus e twb tsi yog li lawm ne. Raws li kuv nyeem ma kuv tsi nkag siab li laiv vim cov lus tsi raug li.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 27th 2015, 4:08 pm

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 27th 2015, 4:11 pm

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 27th 2015, 4:51 pm

Yog hai li Neeb Muas tus muam hai ces ABC 30 News lawv muab xov xwm yog lawm. Qhov lawv hai tias, Neeb tus niam loj nov twb yuav dua txiv coj 2 tug menyuam lo yuav Neeb nov ces yog tsi tseeb lawm.

Qhov neeb tuas nws ces yog qhov hai tias, Neeb yuav nws thaum muaj 12 xyoo ho Neeb muaj 22 xyoo, yog li nov thiaj li ua rau neeb yuav raug txim kawg nkuaj txog hnub tuag, neeb thiaj li tau txia txim siab tuas nws thiab neeb pov tsheg. Kuv agree li Neeb lawm thiab yog thaum yuav mus nyob khuaj txog hnub tuag ces xuam ua kom 2 leeg tuag tag ua ke, qhov decision yog lawm.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 27th 2015, 8:04 pm

Kuv xav kom neeb npawv npoov niam tais thiab yawm txiv tuag pawg lug tso mam li tua niag tsov tom ntawd ces neeb khiav mus ua cob fab nyob pem hav nas tuag hnub twg tsaev hnub ntawd xwb tiag.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vamntxawg April 27th 2015, 8:11 pm

Kuv los yeej xav li koj hais no thiab tiag cov niag niam tais cob ntshais mas yus xav xub tua thawj phom rau niam tais xwb ntag nawb. Tabsi zoo lawm thiab mas, tua tau tus niag tsim txom yus lawm ces ok lawm. Kuv mas hais tus txiv tshiab ua cas nws yuav tsis cheem nws poj niam li thiab tiag.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 27th 2015, 8:22 pm

Toj Xeem, Yog ua tau li koj hai ma, yeej yog zoo kawg tiag tiam si kuv xav ma yog Neeb ua li koj hai ma ntshe yawg khiav tsi dhau ntawm taw rooj xwb yawg ntog lawm. 1 qhov yuav ua ma yuav tau plan ua ntej kom meej pem hnav cov tshos thaiv cov mua nkawj mua daiv tso ma mam li siv li ntawd, tsi tag li, yuav xyuav rab 12 Gage es siv ib cov lub 9 xwb ma thiaj li tsim nyog.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Thov Khawv April 28th 2015, 4:41 am

Kuv yeej tsis qhuas tus pog sauv li nawb. Thaum ub yus twb kam yuav nyiam no yus ho hais li ub li no ces tua li neeb tua yeej yog lawm vim cov tawv dawb no tsis paub txog Hmoob li kev coj noj coj ua. Cov tawv dawb no ntxim ntxub kawg.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by koobpovtxuj April 28th 2015, 2:06 pm

Yog li cas los neeb yeej yuav raug kaw ces lub caij niam tais yawm txiv lawv txeeb txeeb lub tsev ces kuj dag lawv tias kom lawv tuaj tso muab lub tsev pauv npe rau lawv no ces lawv cav tuaj zoo siab hlo yus mam cuab qhov qoos teg tug teg tug ua nws tsa taw hlo xwb los pob.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug April 28th 2015, 8:48 pm

Toj Xeem, txawm yog kuv hai tias, Neeb muab maj dhau lawm xwb o. 3 ua ib yim neeg yog niam tai yawm txiv txws ntxhai yeev ces yeej meej txhob tseg siav kiag, kuv muaj ntxhai coob tab si kuv tsi cob ntxhai, yog lawv sib nyiam ce hnub nkawv seb nkawv yuav ua zaj twg xwb, yog nkawg txau siab li ca ua li ntawd. Kuv twb tsi sau nyiaj tshoob kos lo yog nqi mi nqi hno lawm, tej ntawd tsi yuav li lawm yog thaum twg tej tub ntxhai lo yog ntxhai Vauv lawv hlub, lawv mam li pab tom qab twb tsi lig.

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Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vajhuamsibluag May 2nd 2015, 1:29 pm

Tojxeem wrote:Kuv xav kom neeb npawv npoov niam tais thiab yawm txiv tuag pawg lug tso mam li tua niag tsov tom ntawd ces neeb khiav mus ua cob fab nyob pem hav nas tuag hnub twg tsaev hnub ntawd xwb tiag.

Thaum nws "zoo nyob" no ces tsis hais lus rau leejtwg paub. Thaum paum loog lawm no ces haistias niam thiab txiv muab nws muag thaum nhubnyoog 12 xyoos! Tsimnyog tuag lawm lau!!

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Post n°46

Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug May 2nd 2015, 1:40 pm

Yeej yog lawm ma, cov ntxhai nov tsi paub txog niam thiab txiv txojkev hlub thiab tej kev txhawb nws lub neej, lam tau lam hai tej lus tsi zoo rau tej xov xwm li nov ces ua rau luag cov neeg Xov xwm tsi paub ces luag yuav hai tias, 3 Hmong yog neeg muag ntxhai qhov nov yog ib qhov yuam kev lo ntawm 3 cov ntxhai ua tsi paub ceev faj txog tej yam lus zoo li nov. Cia kom tuag li nov thiab thiaj li ua ib zaj dab neeg rau ntiaj teb paub seb pua muaj cov ntxhai twg kawm tau.

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Post n°47

Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Thov Khawv May 3rd 2015, 10:06 am

Kuv nyiam bro Tojxeem hlub mav tais sauv kawg. Yog ua li hais mas cov yawm txiv cob2 ntxhais zis kawg los hauv tiab hauv ris zom zaws tom tsev ntag nawb.

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Post n°48

Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug May 3rd 2015, 11:14 am

Kwv Thov Khawv,

Tej Tojxeem piav nov ces twb muaj ntau case lo lawm ma. Muaj ib yim Hmoob Vaj nyob hauv Fresno nov thiab, tus vauv ma kuj yog muaj ntsi ua laib ua tsi laiv thiab, ces niam tai thiab yawm txiv cob ntxhai heev txwv tus ntxhai tsi pub mus nrog tus txiv ces muaj ib hnub tus vauv nqa riam lo tuas ces ua niam tai tuag kiag tus ntxhai tuag kiag, yawm txiv dhia tawm ntawm qhov rai lawm ces tus yawm txiv thiaj li ciaj.

Thaum Police tuaj txog ces luag tsi hai dab tsi li luag tua kiag kom tus vauv tsa hlo xwb, thaum kawg tuag 2 leeg nrog tus Vauv ces yog 3 leeg. Hmos ntawd kuv tus tub nrab ho tsi mus tham tus poj niam ntawv lawm, vim kuv tus tub paub tus ntxhai ntawd tau 1 week xwb vim tus ntxhai ntawd hai tias, nws yog poj nrauj lawm no ces ho tham kuv tus tub, tab si hmo ntawd ces kuv tus tub ho tsi mus, nws twb yuav mus lo ma, nws lub siab ua xyem xyav ces kuv ho kom nws txhob mus yog tsi comfortable no ces kom lwm hmo mam li mus no, thaum pom News tawm cesyog yim kwv tij ntawd xwb ces kuv tus son thiaj li hai tias, nws ma so lucky tsi mus hmo ntawd.

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Post n°49

Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Vajhuamsibluag May 3rd 2015, 10:41 pm

Tubzoonraug wrote:Kwv Thov Khawv,

Tej Tojxeem piav nov ces twb muaj ntau case lo lawm ma. Muaj ib yim Hmoob Vaj nyob hauv Fresno nov thiab, tus vauv ma kuj yog muaj ntsi ua laib ua tsi laiv thiab, ces niam tai thiab yawm txiv cob ntxhai heev txwv tus ntxhai tsi pub mus nrog tus txiv ces muaj ib hnub tus vauv nqa riam lo tuas ces ua niam tai tuag kiag tus ntxhai tuag kiag, yawm txiv dhia tawm ntawm qhov rai lawm ces tus yawm txiv thiaj li ciaj.

Thaum Police tuaj txog ces luag tsi hai dab tsi li luag tua kiag kom tus vauv tsa hlo xwb, thaum kawg tuag 2 leeg nrog tus Vauv ces yog 3 leeg. Hmos ntawd kuv tus tub nrab ho tsi mus tham tus poj niam ntawv lawm, vim kuv tus tub paub tus ntxhai ntawd tau 1 week xwb vim tus ntxhai ntawd hai tias, nws yog poj nrauj lawm no ces ho tham kuv tus tub, tab si hmo ntawd ces kuv tus tub ho tsi mus, nws twb yuav mus lo ma, nws lub siab ua xyem xyav ces kuv ho kom nws txhob mus yog tsi comfortable no ces kom lwm hmo mam li mus no, thaum pom News tawm cesyog yim kwv tij ntawd xwb ces kuv tus son thiaj li hai tias, nws ma so lucky tsi mus hmo ntawd.

Tej no ces ua li Hmoob pheej hais "Dab niam dab txiv" pab yus kawg.

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Post n°50

Re: Kev sib tua hauv Nroog Fresno

by Tubzoonraug May 4th 2015, 4:10 pm

Yog kawg lawm ma. Yog cov niam tai thiab yawm txiv cob2 ntxhai ces yeej yog ntshai rwg tus vauv xua ua sawv daws tuag pawg lug thiab ma.

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