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    Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Vamntxawg on October 6th 2013, 10:17 pm

    Txawm yog zoo li no es kuv thiaj hais tias peb teev txiv yawg zoo dua peb teev Abraham. Txawm peb muab pog thiab yawg ntawd ua tus first man and woman los yeej tau. Peb txhob muab luag pog luag yawg los ua peb pog peb yawg, muaj ib txia tseem muab Abrham hu ua txiv Abraham thiab. Luag twb tsis lees peb nas cov yawg.

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    Post by Tubzoonraug on October 6th 2013, 10:24 pm

    Yog kawg lawm ma VamNtxawg, 3 yuv tau teev peb pog peb yawg xwb es tsi txhob mus muab luag pog lua gyawg lo teev qhov nov yog qhov yuam kev thiab dig muag lawm os.


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    Post by Taw Qhia on January 6th 2014, 9:37 am

    Nyob zoo ib tsoom Hmoob,

    Vaj Txiv Yawg yog tus thawj coj kawg ntawm Hmoob lub kee tiam tas los no.Hmoob tus Tswv twb xub qaug ua ntej ntawv lawm, Hmoob thiaj tawg teb tawg chaw, ua rau Hmoob rov sib tshum, sib ntau sib tua tawg tshwj, los mus txog rau thaum Vaj Txiv Yawg tau tas sim neej.Vaj Txiv Yawg yog Hmoob tus coj noj coj ua, tiam sis nws tsis yog Hmoob tus Tswv.Kom peb paub thiab cais meej li xwb.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Vamntxawg on January 6th 2014, 4:19 pm

    Taw Qhia wrote:Nyob zoo ib tsoom Hmoob,

    Vaj Txiv Yawg yog tus thawj coj kawg ntawm Hmoob lub kee tiam tas los no.Hmoob tus Tswv twb xub qaug ua ntej ntawv lawm, Hmoob thiaj tawg teb tawg chaw, ua rau Hmoob rov sib tshum, sib ntau sib tua tawg tshwj, los mus txog rau thaum Vaj Txiv Yawg tau tas sim neej.Vaj Txiv Yawg yog Hmoob tus coj noj coj ua, tiam sis nws tsis yog Hmoob tus Tswv.Kom peb paub thiab cais meej li xwb.


    Hmoob tus tswv ces yog hmoob ntag los mas, koj txawm yug qhov twg los hauv koj daim ntawv yug koj yeej sau hais tias yog hmoob no nas. Tsuas yog cov ntseeg kev cai yesxus thiaj muab lwm haiv neeg los ua lawv tus tswv xwb, tabsi tus tswv uas sab ntsuj plig tseem yog hmoob no laiv. Koj mus xyuas cov ntseeg yesxus sob, lawv daim ntawv yug puas sau hais tias Jew Lossis hu ua Israel no mas?

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    Post by Taw Qhia on January 6th 2014, 5:41 pm

    Vamntxawg, koj hais tau zoo kawg li. Hmoob tus Tswv yog haiv Hmoob tus ntsuj plig xwb mas. Peb txhob thuam cov mus ntseeg Yesxus, vim ntawv yog lawv txoj koob txoj hmoo lawm. Peb txhua tsob neeg yeej muaj ib co yuav mus coj luag li dab qhuas. Lwm hnub los yuav muaj lwm hais neeg los coj peb li dab qhuas. Qhov no yog cai ntuj tsim tebraug lawm, peb yeej hla tsis dhau kiag li. Txij no mus peb thiab lawv yuav tau sib hlub sib txhawb xwb.

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    Post by Tubzoonraug on January 6th 2014, 6:42 pm

    Vamntxawg thiab Taw Qhia,

    Hai txog luag li kev ntseeg ma 3 Hmoob thiaj li mus coj luag tug tab si yuav kom luag lwm heev neeg lo coj peb tug ma yuav tsi muaj vim peb tug tsi zoo thiab muab tsiaj muab txhuv lo theej txhoj yog li nov ma yuav tsi muaj neeg lo nrog peb coj peb tug nawb.


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    Post by Taw Qhia on January 6th 2014, 7:50 pm

    Peb txoj kev ntseeg yuav plhis mus ua txoj tshiab lawm, vim Hmoob tus Tswv (yawmsaub, Hmoob txwm vajlaug, etc) rov sawv lawm. Txoj no thiaj yuav coj peb mus ciaj haiv. Coj txoj li yav tas los ces yuav tsis ciaj haiv, vim kev cai dab qhuas yog qhov txwv tsis pub peb ua haiv tau. Thaum coj tib tug dab qhuas ces thiaj tsis muaj qhov cais sawv daws lawm. Thaum zoo li no ces coj dab qhuas mus teev hawm tom tsev teev hawm lawm xwb, tsis muaj nyob rau hauv lub tsev yus nyob lawm.

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    Post by Tubzoonraug on January 6th 2014, 8:00 pm

    Taw Qhia,

    Kuv tsi muaj qhov ntseeg hai tias peb yuav muaj haiv, vim cov neeg yuav ua kom muaj haiv ces yog koj thiab kuv xwb, yog wb lam tham ntawm ntug cub xwb ces txhai tau hai tias, yog thaum muaj ib tug tsiv drum= nruj, lo nrog cov niag yeeb ncuab sib tua ces peb cov pheej xav xav ua haiv nov ces kawg pib tsee cuag ua neeb lawm xwb tiag. Yog thaum luag hai tias mus lau! no ces u kawg khiav nkaum lawm xwb. haaaa kuv xav li tiag vim kuv xav tsi pom leej twg yuav ua tau li o.


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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Taw Qhia on January 7th 2014, 9:04 am

    Hmoob tawm tebchaws tsis yog cov Hmoob yuav mus ua Hmoob nom Hmoob tswv lawm. Qhov peb ntshaw tsuas yog nrhiav chaw txawb Hmoob txoj sia xwb, kom Hmoob no ciaj xwb.

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    Taw Qhia,

    Hai txog Hmoob lub chaws nyob ces kawg nyob rau ntawm sawv daws nyob nov lawm xwb, yog yuav mus phov siav kom yog u tug ces sawv daws yuav tau tsum koom siab muab yus cov ntshav mus ywg peb Hmoob daim av ma thiaj li yuav tau rau Hmoob, yog tsi muab ntshav mus ywg u daim av ces yuav tsi khws tau li os.


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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on January 7th 2014, 6:13 pm

    Thanks for sharing brothers.







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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Thov Khawv on May 21st 2014, 9:40 am

    Nyob zoo cov kwv tij kwv npawg s/d,

    Xyov cas hais txog Keeb Kwm Huab Tais Txiv Yawg (Chi You) mas kuv tsis tshua ntseeg pes tsawg los sis hais tag lus tias kuv pheej tsis ntseeg tias yog Hmoob tus Huab Tais. Raws li nyeem 2-3 phau ntawv mas yeej tseem tsis tau tseeb kiag li. Piv txwv li phau ntawv Haiv Hmoob Liv Xwm tus sau yog xib hwb Vwj Zoov Tsheej nyob Suav Teb ntawd los yeej qhia tsis meej tias Chi You yog Hmoob tus Huab Tais. Ib qhov ntxiv kuv nyeem ib tug Professor tawv dawb phau ntawv hais txog kev xeeb txawm ntawm cov nom tswv Suav los nws yeej qhia tsis meej tias Chi You yog Hmoob. Hauv phau ntawv ntawd mas tseem qhia meej tias Chi You tsis yog Hmoob tus coj raws li Hmoob txoj kev ntseeg. Suav lam muab puab thiab muab tis npe rau kom Hmoob zoo siab thiab lub teb chaws thaj yeeb xwb. Yang Gerli nyob Suav Teb kuj hais tias Chi You yog Hmoob huab tais tabsis lawd tsuas lam ntseeg li xwb, lawv twb hais tsis tau lus Hmoob thiab twb paub tsis meej txog li. Kuv tseem pheej xav ruj rwg tias ntshai Suav tsuas lam ntxias peb Hmoob mus pe hawm Huab Tais Suav xwb los kuj tsis paub vim rau qhov yog Huab tais Hmoob tiag mas Suav tsis lam puab nws ib zaug. Yeej tsis muaj leej twg paub meej li ces ntseeg thiab los lam ntseeg me ntsis xwb, kuj ho txhob muab ntseeg tas qhuas qab qhuas tsau. Ib phau ntawv uas kuv nyeem yog ib tug kws txuj ZijPees sau tseg txhua lub caij thiab txhua tiam uas lawv muaj connection nrog Suav cov Huab Tais (Hooj Tej), nws hais tias Chi You tsuas yog ib tug thawj coj ntawm ib pab neeg Suav xwb tsis yog Hmoob li Suav tau dag ntxias. Dua ntxiv ntawd lawm mas kuj tseem muaj ib tug kws txuj Suav nws kuj confirmed tias Chi You tsis yog Hmoob li Hmoob xij pheej hais thiab, tabsis tej phau ntawv no los yeej ntseeg tsis tau thiab. Cov ntawv no nyob hauv Library xwb ces kuv tsis tuaj yeem muab rau nej saib ua tim khawv tau ces tsuas lam piav li no xwb.

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    Post by Tubzoonraug on May 21st 2014, 3:18 pm

    Kwv, Tas Lauv Vwm. Hai txog Chi You ma kuv lo tsi paub li thiab, kuv lo twb yuav tau lawv ib phau ntawv hai txog Hmoob nyob qhov twg thiab Chi You thiab, kuv yuav $30 lo xwb kuv twb nyeem tsi tau tag, phau ntawv ntawd yog txhai ua ntawv English os. Tab si ma yeej nyuab rau yus nkag siab kawg li thiab tiag. Txawm li ca lo yog lub teb chaws Suav lo siv cov Hmoob nyob rau daim av Suav claim hai tias Huab Tais Chi You yog Hmoob no ces yus tsua zoosiab hai tias aw, yog no xwb. Tej nov lo tsi paub tseeb, vim cov neeg paub thiab pom ces yeej tuag lawm ntxov tom qab nov ces yog tej tub kiv lawm xwb tsi paub txog keeb kawm li lawm.

    Kwv Tas Lauv Vwm, koj kho siab thaum tawg nos mus mloog kuv cov music nyob ntawm nov...

    http://www.ehmongmusic.com/thumbnails-1787-title-davdub-music.html

    Ob qhov diam os, vim ib qhov ces lawv paub up load tsawg tsawg xwb ces kuv thiaj li rov qab ua dua ib qhov Account tshiab..

    http://www.ehmongmusic.com/thumbnails-2101-title-naxus-music.html


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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on May 22nd 2014, 2:29 am

    Nyob zoo bro Tubzoonraug & Tas Lauv Vwm, zoo siab hnub no rov tau tuaj ntsib neb dua. Hais txog Huab Tais Txiv Yawg ces kuv tsis paub li nawb, kuv tsuas tau nyeem phau puav ntawv & saib hauv internet nkaus xwb, qhov tseeb mas xyov yog li cas li lawm lauj.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on May 23rd 2014, 3:25 pm

    Kwv Nraug Cuam thiab kwv Tas Lauv Vwm,

    Hai txog huab Tai Chi You ces yeej hnov lawv tham tham lawm tab si ua li hai os, tsi muaj leej twg paub zoo txog Yav tag lo kuv muaj ib daim duab yog kuv tus dab laug mus yees duab nyob rau Suav teb, nkwv mus yees lub niag qhov av ces tau daim duab muaj ib tug shadow nyob rau hauv yog ib lub ntsej muag muaj qhov muag caj ntswm thiab si ho. Xyov kuv muab tso rau haov website ces zoo li tsi pom lawm.


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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on May 26th 2014, 12:47 am

    Nyob zoo tij Tubzoonraug & Tas Lauv Vwm, hais txog Huab Tais Txiv Yawg mas paub tsis tseeb li lawm lauj, lawv hais tias yog ces yus hais tias yog no thiab xwb las as hehehehe. Bro Tubzoonraug, thaum twg yog koj rov mus nrhiav tau no ces coj tuaj post 6 wb tau saib thiab nawb.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on May 26th 2014, 9:21 pm



    aw, nyob rau hauv forum nov lawm ntag ma. Cia kuv mus looks saib nyob qhov twg lawm. Daim duab nov yog kuv cut hauv lawv cov video lo xwb tab si kuv posted rau hauv forum nov es tsi paub leej twg muab deleted tag lawm es kuv tsi muaj lawm, tab si kuv mus looks hauv google nos ho muaj neeg copy mus posted rau lawv lub website lawm ces kuv rov mus copy lo past rau hauv nov os.

    Kwv nraug Cuam, koj saib ntev zog es ntsia kom drujj ib nyuag pliag koj pom tseeb tuaj lawm ma.


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    Post by Nraug Cuam on May 27th 2014, 1:40 am

    Auj, zoo kawg li os bro ua tsaug uas koj tseem mus nqa tau los tso 6 kuv saib thiab os bro. Kuv muab ua tib zoo saib lawm kuj txawv kawg li, zoo li pom muaj 1 co pob txha tav nkhaus nkhaus ntawm lub qhov, zoo li pob txha khoos loos tib neeg.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on May 27th 2014, 5:08 pm

    Brother, lawv muab lub Camcorder yees ua Video es pom xwb os, thaum pom lawm mam li muab cut daim duab lo tso peb saib xwb, raws li tus tswv hai ma, lub qhov av ntawd khoob lug rau hauv xwb tsi muaj dab tsi tab si yeej tau no ho muaj tus duab li ntawd. Thaum zoo li ntawd lawm ces Hmoob Suav rov qab mus teev hawm rau lawm thiab no os.





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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 1st 2014, 9:59 pm

    Kuj yog yees tau daim duab ntawv txawv kawg nawb bro, tej zaum yog tim lub koob yees duab ntawv muaj qhov cuam tshuam li cas lawm pob? los yog muaj neeg kho 6 xwb ne???







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on June 1st 2014, 10:14 pm

    Kwv Nraug Cuam, nws yog li koj hai ma, daim duab ntawd lawv muab lub camcorder yee tau xwb os.


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    Post by Tojxeem on June 2nd 2014, 10:12 am

    Kuv pom mas yog lub qhov ncauj qhov ntswg thiab qhov muag laiv.Nyias pom nyias 1 yam lawm laiv yom.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 3rd 2014, 6:24 pm

    Nyob zoo tij Tubzoonraug & Tojxeem, xyov yog tim li cas es hnub no kuv rov tuaj no tsis pom tij Tubzoonraug daim duab 3 tham no lawm as??? yog pom no yuav ua tib zoo saib dua seb kuv ho puas pom li koj hais mas tij Tojxeem.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on June 3rd 2014, 6:51 pm

    Daim duab kuv muab hauv google lo xwb es nws ploj lawm, cia kuv mus looks saib pua tau lawm os. Kuv txawm tsi nco muab save ne.




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    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 3rd 2014, 7:07 pm

    Hahaha tsis ua cas os bro, txhob worry txog os.







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    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 3rd 2014, 7:17 pm

    Zoo siab thiab ua tsaug ntau os bro, uas koj tseem siv time mus nqa los 6/3 tau saib os.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on June 3rd 2014, 8:19 pm

    Tsi ua li ca os. Tus neeg ua mus researched ntawd yog kuv ib tug neej tsa Xeem Vwj, nws mus ua tau ib lub tsev kawm ntawv rau lawv cov Hmoob Vwj thiab zej zog nyob rau Paj ta lag suav Teb. Thiab nws mus muab tau ntau yam history lo ntawm Hmoob txiv yawg (Chi You) nws ua rau hauv Video muaj 3 daim video xwb.


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    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 5th 2014, 11:28 pm

    Zoo siab koj share nws cov movies no pub 3 tau saib os. Yog li mas tus kwv tij ntawv kuj tsis dog dig lawm thiab nawb thov qhuas nws lub tswv 8 thiab peev xwm.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on June 6th 2014, 10:50 pm

    kwv nraug Cuam, tus dab laug ntawd nws yog ib tug neeg paub siv tes taws os, nws paub siv dagger (cuam riam) nws tau hai rau kuv hai tias, nws tsi siv phom li, nws siv cov riam li 3/4 rab riam muab ntxig rau hauv nws tej khau xwb. Nws cuam riam ma txiv li 100 feet xwb ces cuam rau qhov muag xwb lo yeej ntsia nkau no hov.

    20 xyoo dhau lo, nws txawm mus yuav tau ib tug npau(bua) lo txog tom freeways ces ib tug police txawm chasing nws ces stop nws kom cia li tawm, thaum nov ces nws txawm tawm ces police kom nws hand up, nws tsi kam hand up li ces police hai ntau zau ces police txawm muab kiag phom tsom kiag yawg hauv siab ces kom yawg tsa tes lo yawg hai tias, kuv tsi txaum kuv tsi tsa. Tus police ntawd txawm hus kiag back up thaum tus police ntawd saib nws cov police tuaj ob lub yuav txog ces tus police nyob ntawm tus Paj Txoov ntawd cia li muab yawm Hmoob wrestling kiag ces tus dab laug ntawd tib nrog tus police ntawd vau kiag ces dab laug ntawd muab kiag Police rab phom hle kiag pob tseg kiag hos muab police lub khawb xauv tes dam ua ob yas tag ces lub khawv ntawd raug nws lub sib teg ntshav liab vog lawm, tab si cov Police tuaj txog ces lawv ntsia ntsia thiab thov thov lawm xwb vim Yawg muab ib tug police wrestling ua sawv tsi tau phom los muab hle ua ob daim, mov txwv lo muab pov tseg deb lawm ces ma li sib hai ces dab laug mam li lo tsev ho tus niag police ntawd ces mag mob dawb.

    Thaum Dab laug raug li nov ces peb tsua pom nws txai tes qhws ntaub lawm xwb thiab nws piav txog tej ua happened li ca rau peb hos.


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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 8th 2014, 5:08 am

    Bro, yog li mas koj tus dab laug ntawv tsis dog dig li lawm thiab nawb yom, tswv 8 los zoo, peev xwm los muaj, tes taw los txawj, yog nyob ze no yuav tau mus thov nws qhia lub puav mav tais 6 yus thiab auv, tsam mus ntsib me nyuam laib ces yus thiaj dhia dim nawb hehehehe.







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    Post by Tubzoonraug on June 8th 2014, 8:07 am

    Kwv nraug Cuam, yog li koj hai ma. Xyov ua li ca ho tsi muaj leej twg mus kwm thiab, cov lus ua throwing dagger ntawd ma yog nws tham rau kuv xwb. Thaum ub nws ua ib tug Security rau GVP nyob rau Looj Ceeb, nws tham hai tias, luag tej ma txib phom me, ho nws ces rhai dagger rau ntawm nws ob sab khau xwb no os. Tam sim nov nws kuj tseem muaj zog ma, nws plaub hau dawb lawm thiab tab si nws tseem ok raws li kuv sab nws tus neeg ma tsua yog 60 xyoo xwb os.




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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 8th 2014, 10:17 pm

    Auj bro yog nws ua 1 tug security rau GVP mas nws yeej txawj tub ntsuj ntau yam tiag nawb, yog nyob ze mas yuav tau mus thov kawm ntawm nws tiag hos tsis yog lam hais nawb, yog nws tseem 60 xwb mas tseem khov kho nawb bro, tseem tuab ntws tuab ntws tau nawb hehehe j/k.







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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Tubzoonraug on June 9th 2014, 5:38 pm

    Nyob zoo Kwv Nraug Cuam thiab Kwv Tas Lauv Vwm,

    Yog kawm lo yeej tau ma brother, xyov li ca peb ho tsi mus kawm.



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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 17th 2014, 8:16 pm

    Bro, hais tsis dag yog kuv lam nyob ze ces kuv yeej mus thov nws qhia qee yam txuj rau kuv lawm os, txawm yog txuj ci tes taw dab tsi los yeej zoo siab kawm tag nrho li os bro.







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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Davdub on June 17th 2014, 9:21 pm

    Yog lawm ma brother, yog tsi muaj leej twg mus kawm ces nws kuj lau zuj zus lawm thiab laiv, kuv ces yog neeg lau lawm thiab kuv thiaj li tsi mus kawm, thaum kuv tseem hlua lo kuv kuj tsi nco txog mus thov nws qhia thiab tiag.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 17th 2014, 10:09 pm

    Yog mas bro, ziag no cov neeg paub thiab txawj txuj ci mas tsis muaj coob lawm lauj. Yog dua lawv lawm ces ntshe tsis muaj tus paub li lawm lauj.







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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Davdub on June 17th 2014, 10:17 pm

    Yog lawm os bro, yog cov xav kawm ma yuav tau mus kawm, tej kev kawm nov ma tej zaum yuav yog paub siv lub zog lo xyaum xwb hai txog khawv koob ma kuv lo kuj tsi tshua ntseeg pes tsawg. Tej zaum kuj yuav muaj thiab lo kuv kuj tsi paub. Vim nws muaj peev xwm dam lub kawb xauv tes dam tag tau ma kuv lo kuj xav nyuab kawg li thiab tiag.

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    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 17th 2014, 10:32 pm

    Bro, yog li koj hais lawm os. Kuv mas hlob luaj li no yeej tsis tau pom luag tej ua khawv koob ntawm qhov muag li os, hos npais npais ua kev cai tej mas pom lawv, xyov puas leej li os bro, feem ntau mas yog neeg lub tswv 8 thiab kev txawj ntse xwb os, ntawm qhov koj hais tias koj dab laug dam tau lub xauv tes ntawv dam no mas tej zaum nws muaj zog heev, los sis nws yeej tau kawm vib this seb yuav dam yuav lov li cas lawm.







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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Davdub on June 17th 2014, 11:45 pm

    kwv Nraug Cuam, kuv tsi ntseeg khawv koob o, qhov tsi ntseeg ma vim kuv muaj ib tug me nyuam tub muaj 12 hlis ntawd es nws tau lo zaum hauv lau kaub dej kub es kub nws pob tws lub duav siav tag. Kuv mus hus kuv ntiam tus phauj tuaj ua khawv koob rau ces kuv tus menyuam tsaug zog lawm tab si ib leeg hai ob peb los ces ho rov mus hus tau ib tug yawm txiv Hmoob Vwj tuaj ua khawv koob rau ces tus menyuam rov quaj nti ua lim ua lob, kuv niam tsi kam kuv coj mus kho tom hoos mom, ces muab tus menyuam yuam nyob hauv tsev ua rau tus menyuam mob heev yeej tsi hnov tau ib week tab si tus menyyuam yuav luag peem tsi tsheej neeg tab si muaj txoj hmoo, tus menyuam ho hnov lo lawm ces ntoog tau ib hli ces tus menyuam thiaj li zoo zuj zus lo es kuv thiaj li hai tias khawv koob yog dag tsi leej, kuv tus menyuam ma yog nws ntooog nws tsi tuag es nws rov zoo lo lawm xwb.

    Yog tus menyuam tuag ma kuv raug kaws txog hnub nov nawb. Tab si kuv tus tub muaj 28 xyoo lawm, nws twb kawm tag 4 xyoo thiab twv rov mus kawm 2 xyoo ntxiv ces tam sim nov tseem tos saib lub tsev kawm ntawv twg txai ces nws thiab nws tus muam nkawv 2 leeg yuav mus kawm os. Nkawv qhov major yog MD os. Yog Medical Dr. tab si yuav take time ntev xyoo ntxiv saib pua yuav kawm txog nkawv lub hom phiaj os.

    Khawv Koob, yog cov neeg txom txom nyem thiaj li siv xwb. Tos kuv hai li ma neeg txom nyem ces yuav muab qhov ntawd siiv lo dhiav noj dhia hau os.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 19th 2014, 7:11 pm

    Nyob zoo bro Davdub, hais txog khawv koob mas kuv yeej hnov luag tej tham ua zog koog thiab hais tias leej heev, tab sis ntawm kuv tus kheej kuv yeej tsis tau pom dua li, yam kuv pom ces tsuas yog neeg lub tswv yim, lub hlwb, thiab experience nkaus xwb. 2,3 xyoos dhau los no kuv thiab kuv wife wb mus saib npoos(festival), wb txawm mus pom 1 pab neeg coob coob twv txiaj, qhov twv txiaj mas yog 1 tug nplog muab 1 lub hau kkhob kheej kheej luaj li 3 nti khwb 1 co txiv noob maj qham(txiv quav miv) ces kom sawv daws tso nyiaj, thaum nws khwb mas yeej yog 12 lub noob, sawv daws yeej ntsia ntsoov, sawv daws sib tw tso rau lej 12, tab sis thaum qhib mas yog 13 lub noob lawm, tej zaum mas ho yog 11, 10, 14, etc li lawm. Lawv mas sib tw tso zom zaws, thiab tham zom zaws tias ntshe nws muaj khawv koob yees siv, kuv thiaj mus ua tib zoo saib thiab notice ces kuv thiaj paub, kuv saib lawv ua 2/3 zeeg xwb kuv twb pom thiab paub tus yawg nplog ntawv lub tswv 8 tag, qhov kuv paub thiab pom mas yog, kuv mus sawv ntawm nws nruab qaum, ces thaum nws qhib nws xuas nws tus ntiv tes ntawv tib dig 1 lub noob txiv ya plaws 6 qab rooj lawm, muaj qee zaus mas yog nws zais noob txiv rau ntawm nws txhais tes ces thaum nws qhib plho ces nws tso plhuav ntxiv 6 ces cov noob txiv ntawv thiaj tshaj tus number qub s/d pom lawm, kuv yeej hais nroo twj ywm 6 nruab siab tias" Ruam li nej ces kawg mag thaub nplog no kaus nyiaj tag lauj" kuv saib saib kuv thab niam quav tsej lawv ces kuv cia li kom kuv wife wb mus lawm xwb, xyov tawv ua lawv li cas li lawm lauj.

    Hos muaj 1 zaug 3 muaj 1 tug kwv tij mob nyhav, kuv 1 tug txiv txawm txawm los tsawv neeb no, yawg txawm muab 1 lub qe qaib coj los npais npais txawb 6 ntawm tus taw rooj, ua cas lub qe qaib txawm cia li txawb tau sawv ntsug, uas yog tog me tuaj hauv, sawv daws kuj interesting kawg, tab sis kuv tsis ntseeg, kuv los txog tsev kuv txawm tiaj lias mus khaws loo tau 1 lub niag qe qaib nram zes los sim, kuv txawm ua kiag li tus txiv ntxawm ntawv ua, kuv nyob tib pob dub lus ua xwb, kuv tsis npais li txiv txawm hlo li, kuv ua 1 pliag zoj xwb ua ciav lub qe txawb tau tus yees lawm thiab ntag, kuv thiaj kom kuv 1 tug kwv phooj ywg los sim, nws sim li cas los tsis tau, sim ntev loo los txawb tsis tau li, kuv thiaj hais 6 yawg tias kom yawg zaum tog zoo zoo, thiab thaum yus txawb ntawv yus ua pa kom sib luag zos, txhob tshee li mas thiaj txawb tau, yawg ua li kuv hais, tib pliag zoj xwb yawg txawm sib txawb tau lub qe tus yees lawm thiab, txij ntawv los kuv thiaj mam to tau zoo tias tsis yog muaj khawv koob dab tsi hlo, tsuas yog neeg lub tswv 8 thiab kev txawj ntse los sis experience nkaus xwb.







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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Davdub on June 19th 2014, 10:47 pm

    Kwv Nraug Cuam thiab Kwv Tas Lauv Vwm,

    Khawv Koob ces yuav yog cov neeg tsi muaj education thiaj li ntseeg heev thiab cov neeg txom yem yog feem ntau thiaj li tseeg heev.

    Raws li kuv tus kheej ma tsi tshua ntseeg os. Vim tej ntawd pab tsi tau thiab yuav tsi leej baum li lawv hai. Khawv koob ma nws zoo li hus plig thiab ua neeb lo yog thiab yog yuav muab nws lo rau qhov zoo ces nws mus zoo li ntawd, tos kuv hai li ma vim yog thaum yus muaj mob lawm ces tus neeg uaj ua khawv koob rau yus ntawd, ua rau yus zoo siab thiab ntseeg lawm ces yus qhov mob cia li zoo lawm xwb. Qhov tseeb ces yog yus zoo siab thiab ntseeg ces yus tus mob zoo lawm, yog li ntawd nws tsi tim zaj khawv koob thiaj li ua zooo.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Nraug Cuam on June 20th 2014, 12:10 am

    Yog li koj ua tij hais lawm os bro, hais txog khawv koob, neeb yaig, hu plig, tej no mas yeej yog li koj ua tij hais lawm os, thaum 1 tug neeg twg muaj mob ces lwm tus tuaj ua neeb, ua khawv koob kho rau ces tus mob ntawv zoo siab, siab loj thiab ntseeg nws tus kheej lawm ces tus mob kuj cia li zoo hlo lawm xwb, tsis li qee zaum kuj yog zoo ncaj thiab xwb los kuj tsis paub.







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    Post by Thov Khawv on June 20th 2014, 1:47 am

    2 tug nplov dawm, thaum neb piav li ko lawm ces kuv mam ho piav me me ntxiv. Kuv txiv yog ib tug neeg txawj khaws khoob, kab tshoob kev kos, taw kev, thiab txuj ci Hmoob txhua nrho, tabsis yog vim li cas thaum nws tseem nyob ntawd nws ho tsis qhia rau peb li? Los txog nyiam no kuv mam to taub meej, kuv mam paub tias tos kuv txiv tsis qhia mas vim nws yeej paub meej tias tej ntawd tsis muaj laij dab tsi, nws yeej paub meej tias tej ntawd tsis tau noj. Yog li ntawd nws thiaj sij forced kom peb rau siab kawm ntawv nkaus xwb. Nyem no kuv txawm tsis txawj tej no los kuv yeej tsis tusiab. Kuv kiag mas hais txog kev ua tsaug plig, ua txiv neeb tsaug, txi xwm kab tej no kuv twb tsis txawj nawb nkawv. Kuv teev kuv lub xwm kab mas kuv yeej ua kuv lub thaj xwm kab zoo zoo nkauj ntag tab sis kuv tsis txawj hais zaj txi xwm xwm kab nkhaus nkhoo li tej laus ces kuv hais lus tsuag tsuag 2-3 los xwb tsum li ntawd lawm, ib txhia ob cag pom lawv tias kuv tsis paub kev cai hmoob, tus xwm kab ntawd mas luag tej laus tsis pub teev lub thaj kom zoo zoo li ntawd no, tabsis kuv tsis khes, kuv tsuas ua kom zoo nkauj rau kuv lub tsev xwb. Kuv twb tsis txawj kab kev noj tshoob haus cawv vim rau qhov ua hauj lwm ces nrog nplog nyob 90% xwb tsis tau nrog Hmoob nyob. Tej zaum luag noj tshoob luag hu kuv mus mas kuv tsis paub lawv cov kev cai kiag nawb mas zoo li yus ruam kawg tiag thaum ntawd na. Tab sis kuv yeej tsis khes, rau qhov tej ntawd tsis yog yus lub neej. Paub los zoo, tsis paub los tsis ua cas, kuv xav li ntawd. Hos lawv yuav thuam tias yus tsis paub kev cai (bwb) no los kuv tsis xav li cas rau qhov yus yeej tsis paub tiag thiab nes.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Davdub on June 20th 2014, 4:08 pm

    Zoosiab kawg 6 neb 2 tub brother thiab os. Hai txog Khawv Koob ces kuv twb kawm tag 2 pua nyiaj lawm kuv siv tsi leej ces kuv tsi siv lawm. Vim kuv pheej tsi ntseeg na. Thaum kuv tsi ntseeg ces zoo li kuv txawm tsi nco zuj zus lawm. Muaj tej zaj ma yog menyuam quaj heev, ua tag muab rab riam hai lus tag rau muab ntxig rau hauv lub hna tso nrog tus menyuam pws ces tus menyuam kuj tsi quaj lawm thiab, tej nov lo yus kuj xav hai tias zoo lawm vim tus menyuam cia li tsi quaj lawm.

    Dua li ntau yam ma kuj tsi mloog lus ua tag lo kuj tsi zoo. Hai txog Hmoob tej kev ua tsaug ntawd ma yog tswv 8 xwb, yog u muaj tswv 8 ces yus kuj yuav hai tau ma. Ib yam li neb sau paj huam ntag ma 2 yawg. Neb twb txawj sau paj huam tau zoo heev ma neb haj yam txawm ua tsaug.

    Hmoob tej kev txawj kev ntse=(jes) no ma nws yog tus tib neeg muaj zoo lub tswv 8 xwb os, yog tus tsi muaj tswv 8 ces nws yeej tsi paub hai li tiag. Kuv twb lau li nov lo kuv yeej tseem hai tsi tau li siab xav tab si kuv pom pom lawv ua lawm ces kuv ho paub hai tias yuav pib tog twg tuaj lo kuv paub xwb.

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    Post by Thov Khawv on June 21st 2014, 1:31 am

    Zoo mas bro, txhua yam ces yeej yog siv tswv yim li koj hais xwb mas. Kuv yeej tsis tshua tau nrog hmoob ua tej kev cai ntawd ces kuv thiaj tsis paub hais npliag lias li lawv cov ib txwm paub ntawd. Tej kab lim kev cai no yog paub los yeej yog ib qho zoo thiab xws li yus thiaj pab tau tej kwv tij thaum luag muaj ib siab 2 qig mas yom.

    Bro, hais txog paj huam thiab tej kev cai hmoob ntawd mas sib txawv os, ntshe yog koj ua tij lam hais tso dag ua si xwb os. Tab sis raws li kuv saib mas Hmoob cov zaj ntawd txawb muaj qab muaj hau kawg nawb, yog li ntawd hais txog ntawm kuv mas ntshe yuav tau los zaum tsaws kawm step by step mas thiaj paub os. Paj huam ces lam xev thiab nrhiav lus los sib dhos xwb es.

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    Re: Huab Tai Txiv Yawg Chi You Hmong Ancestor

    Post by Davdub on June 21st 2014, 7:32 am

    Kwv Tas Lauv Vwm & Kwv Nraug Cuam

    Kwv Tas Lauv Vwm, hai txog Hmoob tej txuj yeej zoo nawb, qhov tsi zoo ma vim Hmoob tsi muaj leej twg muab coj lo sau kom tau 1 phau ntawv rau sawv daws tau kawm xwb. Hmoob pheej nyiam mus kawm yam tsi pom ntawv ces hai ncauj dawb ncauj lug xwb. Hmoob tej lus foom kom lo kuj hai tau muaj qab muaj hau ib yam li luag tej neeg txawj je (counseling ) thiab os. Tsi tag li tseem muaj cov lus qhuab qhia kom yus ua neeg zoo tej nov yeej zoo ma. Tham ma kuj lam tham ua dog ua dig, tab si Hmoob tej txuj yeej tseem ceeb thiab zoo heev.


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