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Bad News: Hmong leader Vang Pao dies

Post by Tubzoonraug on January 2nd 2011, 9:41 am









Caws ib tsoom phooj ywg lo tham saib nej nyiam tham dab tsi? Cov phooj ywg, nej xav li ca txog ntawm Peb txiv Vaj Hmoob? ua li nej pua tus siab thiab lo nej tseem zoo siab? Caws nej tuaj peb tham hauv nov, lo tawm nej lub tswv yim saib nej xav li ca?






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Re: Bad News: Hmong leader Vang Pao dies

Post by Txawj on January 2nd 2011, 10:52 pm










Tubzoonraug, zoo siab koj tso koj qhov xov xwm Suab Hmoob xov tooj cua tshaj tawm os.

Thaum koj hais li tag kuv mus search pom npaum li nov daim videos tham txog yawg hlob Nai Phoo Vaj Pov xwb es seb nej cov nyob ze xov tooj cua ho hnov li cas ntxiv. Kuv xav tias luag neeg Meskas twb tsis tau tshaj tawm txog li tej sawv daws hais nov mas tej zaum yuav tsis muaj dab tsi os vim peb ua neeg nyob ces thaum lub caij ntuj no tuaj lawm yeej muaj cov tau khaub thuas li cas los muaj tam kuv xav.


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Re: Bad News: Hmong leader Vang Pao dies

Post by Vamntxawg on January 3rd 2011, 6:35 am

Txawj, yeej li koj hais no los mas, yog muaj tseeb ces tsis tas hmoob hais os, luag cov ABC new yeej hais ua ntej lawm, qhov lus dag, lus paj lus moo cua no ces yog, los ntawm sab laug sab xis los xwb. Qhov 2 ces yog los li thaum i hmoob daig pob caus hauv St Paul los ces cov neeg ua tsis mloog qab taug hauv xov, cia li hais tawm, Lo lus ntawd mas yog tawm ntawm cov neeg sab laug los. Nws tsis nyiam tog sab xis ces nws hnyos hais tias tuag tsis tuag no ces ib tug neeg awb ncauj ntau cia li hais tias tuag lawm no xwb. Tabsi lo lus ntawd kuj tsis phem, kuj yog ib qhov zoo, tus mob tuag lawm, tus neeg zoo los no xwb nas. Thaum no cov neeg tsis nyiam peb hos mob heart attack tuag.

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Post by Tubzoonraug on January 3rd 2011, 12:58 pm

Nyob Zoo Txawj thiab Vamntxawg

Kuv lo tsi paub txog thiab. Tsi tag li es lawv ho muaj tus mus muab xov xwm cuav li ntawd lo hai rau ntiaj nteb paub tag no ma nws tsi yog lawm. Txawm muaj tseeb lo tsi tsim nyog hai tawm yuav tau zai tej kev ntawd kom ntiajteb txhob paub.


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Post by Vajhuamsibluag on January 13th 2011, 7:30 pm



THAWJ COJ LUS NTUAS

Hawm txog peb ib tsoom thawj coj Hmoob txhua tus, tsis hais cov twb tso peb tseg lawm, los yog cov tseem nrog peb ua neeg nyob. Peb tshwm-sim los ua ib tiam neeg ua-ke, ib sij-huam peb txoj kev ua neeg laus tag lawm lau. Yam nkaus lub hnub qaij-nroos tim boo-ntuj. Nej ib tsoom thawj coj xav tau ntau baum li-cas los, qee lo lus tsis yog lus hais rau leej-twg hnov. Vim li-no, kuv thiaj sau zaj yas suab no los ua nej tug, seev nej cov lus rau pej-xeem Hmoob khaws tseg. Zaj yas suab no hu ua “Thawj Coj Lo Lus Ntuas”. Tus sau yog G Vwj.




*Tshwm-sim yug los nrog nej ua ib tiam neeg
muaj lub koob-meej hwj-chim nrov thoob ntiaj-teb
txawm zoo thiab phem los yog vim kuv muaj nej
los sib koom tes muaj roj jhav pua daim av

*Zoo kuv siab lawm tiam no yug los ua Hmoob
yam lub kaus roos rau nej tiv tshav tiv nag
ib vuag dhau los peb lub teb chaws poob tag
kwvtij neejtsa hlob yau lub kua muag poob

*Nco joov’os mog nco joov txoj kev sib pab
peb thiaj huaj-vam thiaj ciaj ib haiv Hmoob
txawm tag kuv lawm ho muaj tus tshiab los hloov
thov nej sib poog sib pab ntiaj teb thiaj qhua

*Vim phlis tsis tau yog tias tas kuv txoj yawg
hlob yau sawv-daws nej nyob txhob seev txhob quaj
nyob muaj hnub twg peb lam tau rov sib cuag
hauv tus bau suav jhai yog lub ntuj yuav nxoov

txoj kev lhub tshua yuav nco mus tag ib txhis

zoo siab qi muag rau av quas mus ib txhis

G. Vue

Sacramento, June 17, 1988

[']Cia saib kuv puas muaj theej tau rau hauv audio cassette los-sis CD rau sawv-daws mloog.



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Post by Vamntxawg on January 16th 2011, 9:11 am

Vajhuamsibluag wrote:

THAWJ COJ LUS NTUAS

Hawm txog peb ib tsoom thawj coj Hmoob txhua tus, tsis hais cov twb tso peb tseg lawm, los yog cov tseem nrog peb ua neeg nyob. Peb tshwm-sim los ua ib tiam neeg ua-ke, ib sij-huam peb txoj kev ua neeg laus tag lawm lau. Yam nkaus lub hnub qaij-nroos tim boo-ntuj. Nej ib tsoom thawj coj xav tau ntau baum li-cas los, qee lo lus tsis yog lus hais rau leej-twg hnov. Vim li-no, kuv thiaj sau zaj yas suab no los ua nej tug, seev nej cov lus rau pej-xeem Hmoob khaws tseg. Zaj yas suab no hu ua “Thawj Coj Lo Lus Ntuas”. Tus sau yog G Vwj.

*Tshwm-sim yug los nrog nej ua ib tiam neeg
muaj lub koob-meej hwj-chim nrov thoob ntiaj-teb
txawm zoo thiab phem los yog vim kuv muaj nej
los sib koom tes muaj roj jhav pua daim av

*Zoo kuv siab lawm tiam no yug los ua Hmoob
yam lub kaus roos rau nej tiv tshav tiv nag
ib vuag dhau los peb lub teb chaws poob tag
kwvtij neejtsa hlob yau lub kua muag poob

*Nco joov’os mog nco joov txoj kev sib pab
peb thiaj huaj-vam thiaj ciaj ib haiv Hmoob
txawm tag kuv lawm ho muaj tus tshiab los hloov
thov nej sib poog sib pab ntiaj teb thiaj qhua

*Vim phlis tsis tau yog tias tas kuv txoj yawg
hlob yau sawv-daws nej nyob txhob seev txhob quaj
nyob muaj hnub twg peb lam tau rov sib cuag
hauv tus bau suav jhai yog lub ntuj yuav nxoov

txoj kev lhub tshua yuav nco mus tag ib txhis

zoo siab qi muag rau av quas mus ib txhis

G. Vue

Sacramento, June 17, 1988

Cia saib kuv puas muaj theej tau rau hauv audio cassette los-sis CD rau sawv-daws mloog.



Vajhuamsibluag, yog koj nrhiav tau suab rau lawm no ces muab hu rau peb mloog hauv hmoongthoob ntiajteb no seb. cov ntsiab lus kuj zoo kawg lawm tabsi xav hnov lub suab thiab.

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Post by TubHmoob on January 16th 2011, 9:36 am

kuv tsi paub seev suab ces kuv seev li mus vajtswv lub suab lawm laiv. Lo yog lub suab zoo li yog nyiav lawm haaaa cov neeg tsi txawj ces lub suab tsi zoo li o

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Post by Vajhuamsibluag on January 16th 2011, 7:51 pm

Kuv kaw tau tseg rau hauv lub 4 track recorder lawm. Xav tias yuav coj mus nrhiav cov professional singer nqua thiab ntaus music rau no, tab-sis too late lawm. Tsis xav tias VP yuav tso sawv-daws tseg sai ua luaj thiab. Kuv mam nrhiav cov studio saib puas muaj tus pab theej rau kuv kom yeej VP lub ntees. Nej puas paub cov Hmoob muaj studio thiab?
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Re: Bad News: Hmong leader Vang Pao dies

Post by Txawj on January 16th 2011, 8:00 pm

Tubhmoob, Vajhuamsibluag, thiab Vamntxawg.

Cas nej yuav tham tau kho siab kawg li os.

Vajhuamsibluag, ua tau ces coj tuaj rau Naxus ua video os.

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Post by Davdub on January 17th 2011, 1:35 pm


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Re: Bad News: Hmong leader Vang Pao dies

Post by NtxhaisMoob on January 18th 2011, 2:42 am

Nyob zoo Txawj, Tubzoonraug, Tubhmoob, Vajhuam, Vamntxawg, thiab Davdub,

Nyob zoo rau nej sawv daws hnub no os. Zoo siab tau tuaj ntsib nej sawv daws tham tau lom zem thiab ho tham tau tham tu siab vim Txiv Nai Phoo Vaj Pov tau tso peb Hmoob tseg lawm.

Vajhuam, koj tau koj zaj nkauj zoo kawg li kuv xav hnov lub suab thiab nav. Koj tsum nqa lub suab nkauj tuaj rau peb hnov thiab ov...hehe

Davdub, kuv nyiam koj daim calendar kawg li. I wonder how you do it? hehehee. Koj los txawj create tau cov video zoo kawg li thiab.

Nqa zaj nkauj no tuaj mloog nrog nej sawv daws thiab vim Txiv Nai Phooj Vaj Pov ncaim peb mus lawm tu tu siab li. Tuaj nrog nej tham koj txhob nco qab tej kev tu siab ntawv.


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Post by Davdub on January 18th 2011, 12:37 pm

Ntxhaismoob,

Ua tsaug ntau rau koj daim video thiab. Lub xyoo nov nws poob rau lub xyoo tsi zoo es peb cov pem xeem hmoob txua leej thiaj li tau kev nyuam siab heev li os.

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Post by NtxhaisMoob on January 21st 2011, 7:46 am

Nyob zoo Davdub thiab tsoom phoojywg sawv daws,

Davdub koj hais los yeej yog thiab ma. Peb rub tsis tau lub sijhawm kom nre peb yuav tuav tsis tau lub caij nyoog kom nyob twj ywm.
Txawm Txiv Nais Phoo txawj coj tau zoo thiab hlub peb haiv Hmoob npaum cas los
Nws lub noog nyoog tsuas muaj txav mus deb zuj zus xwb.
Lub ntuj tsuas tig lawm tas zog txuas los txog txij li no xwb.
Xyoo no poob los rau nws xyoo ncaim lawm ces peb yuav tau ua ib siab.
Peb hmoob sawv daws yuav tau kooj siab los ua ib pab ib pawg
Seb yav no lawm tov puas yuav muaj ib tug zoo li nws los coj tau peb haiv Hmoob dua os.

Davdub wrote:Ntxhaismoob,

Ua tsaug ntau rau koj daim video thiab. Lub xyoo nov nws poob rau lub xyoo tsi zoo es peb cov pem xeem hmoob txua leej thiaj li tau kev nyuam siab heev li os.

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Hmong News Year Split affects to Vang Pao Funeral

Post by Davdub on January 21st 2011, 12:11 pm

A bitter dispute between organizers of competing Hmong New Year celebrations in Fresno has grown since the death this month of Gen. Vang Pao -- and the conflict is affecting plans for the Hmong leader's funeral in two weeks.

One organization has been told it will not be welcome at the funeral, and its presence could cause a disruption. Some members said they have heard rumors they could be spit on if they show up.

And without the general as a mediator, it's unlikely the issues can be resolved before the funeral, many in the Hmong community believe.

Most Hmong viewed Vang -- who led guerrilla forces against the communists during the Vietnam War -- as a father figure and leader in helping Hmong immigrants settle in the United States.

Individuals do not need invitations to attend the funeral, but organizations wishing to speak and participate in the ceremonies do.

The Hmong 18 Clan Council wants to deliver a speech honoring the general as a leader and a hero during the Vietnam War. The general's family turned down the request.

The group held a controversial New Year's celebration competing with one that another organization has held for a dozen years. The group hopes to meet with the general's family to resolve problems in the next two weeks so it can attend the funeral, said Pao Yang, a council spokesman.

"The Hmong public doesn't want to see a division at the general's funeral," Yang said.

Chai Vang, one of the general's sons, said the family wants the same thing, and that's why the organization is not invited. "The family wants a funeral fit for a king, and we don't want any disputes and engagements and the possibility for fighting," he said.

The split

Tensions in the Hmong community have festered since December, when the Hmong 18 Clan Council -- a group with representatives from each of the 18 Hmong family clans -- broke away from the traditional Hmong International New Year at the Fresno fairgrounds to host its own celebration at the city's Regional Sports Complex on Dec. 26.

Members of the council claimed money from the Hmong International New Year has been misspent on trips abroad and not for goals such as building a Hmong community center. The organizers of the Hmong International New Year denied the claims.

Vang, 81, was admitted to Clovis Community Medical Center on Dec. 26, the first day of the Hmong New Year celebrations. He apparently was admitted shortly after making his annual appearance at the Hmong International New Year event at the Fresno Fairgrounds. Vang lived in Southern California.

Animosity against the Hmong 18 Clan Council has intensified since the general's death on Jan. 6, some in the Hmong community said. Members of the council requested permission of the general's family to participate in the funeral, but were rebuffed. Instead, they held a candlelight vigil to show respect and honor the general on Jan. 10, Pao Yang said.

Chai Vang said his father did not officially recognize the group as a "credible organization," and out of respect for the family it was not extended an invitation to the funeral.

Yang of the council said the general had not given his recognition, but "the Hmong community recognized the 18 Clan Council ... their intent to lead Hmong to the next generation."

Ze Her, a volunteer at the council and president of the Hmong Student Association at Fresno City College, said the council is trying to honor the general as a great leader in the community.

"Its a wrongdoing to the community" for the group to be excluded from the funeral, he said.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/01/20/2240986/hmong-divided-on-vang-funeral.html#storylink=misearch

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